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    That sounds the same, but I also would have to provide quite a detailed signed statement. The way it’s framed is that I am the witness and the dash cam backs up my version of events.

    I also have to be prepared to be present in court.


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    So for the sake of the cost of a new SD card you have let a dangerous driver get away with their driving unchallenged and potentially do something like this again with the result that we all want to avoid.
    A new SD card is a small price to pay in my mind, i would have no issues in surrendering mine in a situation like this.
     
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    I’ve just bought a new sd card for mine and it cost £47, I’d prefer not to lose that for no reason so I’m sure the same is probably true for the OP
     
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    I have to say, I agree. I know it’s not buttons for a new card but I do think these drivers believe people are either too busy not to report or the chance of getting nicked by a Policeman are so slim, they can keep getting away with it. It’s up to us to challenge that perception when we have the means (ie a dashcam) to do so.

    I don’t want a Police State / Stasi like snitch culture, but I do think people should be held to account and I would happily sacrifice an hour or so of my time and an SD card to ensure that that driver does know there are consequences to their very seriously reckless actions.
     
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    Following on from this. You have paid good money for your car and the dashcam, so in my opinion, you should use it to its full extent and not just for parking bumps or easy-to-report video stuff. I carry two 128GB and a 64 GB micro sd cards for eventualities such as the OPs problem.
     
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    We are all entitled to deal with things the way we see fit.

    For my part, I would hope that the young female driving the mini scared herself and will hopefully moderate her driving in future.


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    I guess the other side to this is, you give up an hour of your time, you hand over your SD card, and then the police don't pursue it.....so what happens there, do you get the card back, i am thinking unlikely, so now you have given up time and money, and had zero result.

    I have only used my footage once when someone reversed into the front of the car and drove off, sent everyhting off to the police, waited almost a month only to be told they won't pursue it and go through your insurance company, took another few emails to get address details, and acknowledgement that the owner admitted driving the car.

    I agree people should be held to account for their actions, but sometimes people do stupid things, and they don't always mean to, for example in the above footage, it could be someone that thought they could make the manouvere, but couldn't and had already committed, and as the OP stated above, this may have scared the beejesus out of them and they will learn.

    It's a tough one, we would have to start reporting everything if we were to go down this route, you can't actually drive anywhere at the moment without someone doing something that could be construed as being either dangerous driving or driving without due care and attention.

    Just my tuppence worth :)
     
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    Yes that’s right, plus I don’t really want to give evidence in court, which I had to agree to, for the police to review the footage, so potentially considerably more than an hour.

    What would have been some sensible middle ground, would be for the police to review the footage and give the driver a talking to. Sometimes that’s what people need, a verbal rap across the knuckles.


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    Instead of sending the SD card, is it not possible to download the video files to your computer and Email the MP4 file to the police? If your dashcam is anything like mine, the files have embedded metadata which give time and location etc. Surely they have up-to-date technology to accept the data in that form?

    A similar incident happened to me a couple of years ago. A straight section of main road - a small car pulled pulled out to pass two slower moving cars in front. I was coming in the opposite direction, but quickly assessed that the car heading towards me head-on would not be able to get back over, before the inevitable collision. The road was not that wide with no space for 3 cars, so I took avoiding action and skidded up onto the narrow grass verge. I didn't even have chance to vent my anger as it sped past. It was fortunate that there was no hard kerb or ditch, where I pulled in.

    There are plenty of idiots out there - just assume that they are all out to get you and you won't go far wrong. :mad:
     
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    We all do stupid things from time to time. Judgement fails us, or maybe tiredness or adrenaline take us outside our normal bounds. Of course, some people don't have normal bounds.

    It's tricky. On the one hand it's don't judge lest you be judged. On the other, too many people don't take road safety seriously and believe a driving licence is like a birth certificate - something you are entitled to keep, once you have it.

    Again, it comes down to judgement - our judgement. What is so reckless that it warrants the effort to report it, with all the attendant time and inconvenience? I've done a few things that should have been reported. But at least I know I did them, will forever be embarrassed, and I try to learn from my mistakes.

    "There are plenty of idiots out there - just assume that they are all out to get you and you won't go far wrong. " Well said. This was my solution to staying alive on bikes until I adopted a full time tin box. The only reason I passed my car test before my bike test was because I had just come off crutches, I wasn't bike fit, I but could drive a car with only minor discomfort. My biking days hammered a lot of road sense into me. They had to.
     
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    Aye, having a Bobbie on your doorstep raises the heart rate a bit, never need two of the Traffic variety (my visit was not motoring related, he was handing in the reward for a wallet I'd found and handed in :sunny:) would get your attention :D).
     
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    It is surprising but worrying too
    The other day, some twat in a “Bmw 1 series” showed his multi talents as I passed he was glued to phone screen, he offered the single finger salute and multiple hand gestures when I beeped the horn.
    I left thinking of his multitude of talents displayed, breathing, driving, avid phone use, sign language, and fluent profanity combined with anger
    Sadly in this instance I was clearly in the wrong and should have accepted his swerving and inattention, oddly his sign language became aggressive when I pointed to my dash cam!
    In a single report I’m sure I could have him off the road, though fear he’ll be on his roof in a ditch soon enough!
     
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    Some folks are good at multi-tasking though! :rolleyes:

    I had a work colleague who could:

    Smoke a cigarette
    Drink a coffee
    Eat a yoghourt with a spoon
    Have a push-button walkie-talkie radio conversation
    Drive a LandRover Discovery up a dried-up river-bed at speed

    All at the same time. :eek:

    She never seemed to carry the same passengers twice for some reason. :whistle:
     
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