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    Both useless in the snow, downside of my wife and I both having rear wheel drive cars. Not going anywhere! 3 Series is a manual and slightly lighter (a small advantage). 2DF5394F-C67C-466D-927F-73C49901BC02.jpeg
     
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    Two words - winter tyres. ;)
     
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    We’ve been using my sons Audi A2 with no issues, left the 535 in the driveway.
     
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    There is a house i pass each day going to work whilst walking to the station, i'm 99% sure he works for BMW. So he has a 3 series 17 plate, think its a 320D or 318D (Previosu car was a 3 series 318D 14 plate). I presume this is company car, anyway today the car is in the drive no movement it seems but tonight there is a 3 series 16 plate X Drive parked across the drive so his clearly decided the car he has is useless in snow and has borrowed a X drive 3 series. I found it amusing, clearly never bothered with winter tyres, just borrows a different car :)

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    Had the barge out in the snow today, tyres fully submerged in the 1.5” snow drifts, performed like it was on rails with its Summer tyres....
    Average speed - 4mph
    Distance covered - 0.4miles (full return journey)
     
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    well worth looking for a set of winter tyres for at least one of the cars they realy do transform a rear wheel drive car in the winter, and winter tyres are not just for the snow

    I purchased a full set of 19 inch alloys fitted with 7mm all round dunlop winter runflats and TPMS valves for £650.00 and £80.00 delivery from an e bay seller in Germany, as winters are required by law in some parts of Germany you will find lots of bargains about around April may time
     
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    At the end of last year while being in Holland I had to drive my F11 through very slippery icy and snowy city roads.

    I could hardly get it to drive off in a straight line, no matter what drive style I used. Going over the Amsterdam bridges was a scary and almost impossible task.

    Disappointing.
     
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    Took the X3 out a few times and even collected my neighbour from the station as his wife was too scared to drive their Audi.
    Winter tyres and 4 wheel drive meant no drama, other than a Mercedes ML thinking he could stay with me through a slippery (for him) series of bends.
     
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    @Nic Bowler - you never heard of the sand bag trick? Buy a couple of bags and stick them in the boot to weigh down on the rear wheels. I left a couple of sandbags in our 3 series and it improved traction off the lights.
     
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    if you cant justify winter wheels and tyres due to cost or the fact that you ave no storage then what about car snow socks

    one of my work colleagues was trying to get to a customer in a remote location up a single track road yesterday and the nearer they got to their destination the worse the snow got and in the end they ground to a halt, faced with the situation where it was very tricky to reverse out they opted to fit a pair of Autosock snow socks, faced with about four inches of unbroken snow and a steep hill they were very skeptical as to what a couple of bits of fluffy fabric would do to get them out of a pickle

    they drove all the way up to their destination turned around and drove out without drama and they are now singing the praises of Autosock car snow socks

    I have a set in the works van and a set in my car i also carry a cheap set of snow chains mine cost £20.00 in lidl but i have seen them being sold off for as little as a tenner, if every motorists had snow socks or snow chains in the boot then we wouldn't have had half the issues that we have had over the last few days, my car has winter tyres all around and i have snow chains in the boot as well and during all the snow the car has sat on the drive and not turned a wheel as i am working so dont need to use the car
     
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    Or get an xDrive. ;)

    I've made a couple of journeys around 30 miles in my 330d xDrive in the snow and it has been totally stable - no drama or wheels spins and it's still shod with Pirelli P Zero's. Admittedly if I lived in Scotland or had to drive long distances, then I'd have a set of winter tyres. But as we rarely get snow in Cheshire I don't think it worth the expense. :whistle:
     
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    A decent set of winter tyres on a 2wd will perform better than summers on an x Drive imo
     
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    Quite possibly, but for my present requirements - not something that I need.

    Whatever did people do before tyre companies made winter tyres? :D
     
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    Tyres were narrower, and folk were taught how to cope without electronic 'driver aids', in which imho there is too much reliance. There was also less traffic to cause hold-ups by grinding to a halt - it's often [Numpties aside] when drivers lose momentum in difficult circumstances/places that problems arise.
     
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    I bought a brand new set of winters a few years ago, they sat in the office for a year or two before I sold them on.

    In this recent snow I've worked from home or left mine on the drive and used the kids Picanto, it's awesome in the snow and chugged past a lot of far 'superior' cars that were stuck.
     
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    ^^ Yup, it's not the weather that causes the snarl ups it's the idiot drivers who are either too scared of snow or too over confident.
     
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    they probably rode around on a horse and cart, Nokian have been making winter tyres for a couple of years now, in 1936 The legendary Hakkapeliitta winter tyre was the first winter tyre made specially for passenger cars

    as i grew up My dad drove taxis and in the 70,s he always ran some sort of winter tyre be it a mud and snow trye that you would find on a land rover or a dedicated winter tyre, we always had some sort of winter covers in the garage at home
     
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    Interesting...

     
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    @sshooie

    with me that is preaching to the converted, but like you said a very interesting video, I have been in the snow dome at Tamworth and that is a very steep slope and the two wheel drive car with winters did amazingly well, it would be interesting to see a rear wheel drive BMW with winter tyres on the same slope
     
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    There are comparison videos doing just that comparison, I've decided seen them - in fact there was a link on the old 'Land. I think the one saw was conducted in Scandinavia and much more extensive.

    I'm on my tablet which is getting low on battery, but a Google video search for 'BMW + winter tyres v 4 X 4 + summer tyres' bring up quite a lot of choices.

    It confirmed our thoughts.
     

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