Ownership diary - Range Rover Sport Autobiography 3.0

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    The car: MY2017 Range Rover Sport Autobiography 3.0 in Corris Grey with Ebony/Ivory leather and just under 16k miles. Additional extras include HUD, deployable side steps and electric towbar.

    Flew back from the dark continent on Thurs 8 Nov and flew up to Glasgow Fri night. Stopped over in a hotel near the airport, took a train to Perth first thing Sat morning, picked up at the station and arrived at the dealership around 0900. From that point on the experience was average at best. The dealership itself is pretty small anyway and doesn’t lend itself to feeling anything other than functional. After asking for some coffees, we started signing paperwork but no sign of the car. Bearing in mind I hadn’t actually seen the thing I was quite keen to have a look so had to ask where it was.

    Found the car outside and had a good look around. The car came with black wheels which I didn’t like so they’d swapped those over and I also asked them to sort the hubs out as they were rusty. The front ones were done but the rears weren’t although they weren’t as bad as the fronts anyway but it still annoyed the hell out of me. I was a bit stuck though given that I was 450 miles away from home so kicking up a fuss was going to be counter-productive so I let it go.

    Signed off a load of paperwork followed by a slightly uncomfortable pause during which I asked if he was ‘going to show me how it worked then?’ ‘Oh yes, of course,’ he mumbled. First off, can we pair the phone? Can we buggery, it just won’t pair. His mate comes out and has a go. Nothing. Back into the dealer it goes but it’s back again fixed in less than five mins later so that’s all good. Next up is the SIM card, he sticks it in and pulls up a browser with a previous Google search on it so it all looks good – only it isn’t. More on that later. Tries also to get the car connected on InControl (a bit like Connected Drive) but nothing, nada, zilch.

    He starts going on about other stuff by this point we’re an hour over our planned itinerary and I need to get on the road so we leave the dealer after the most profoundly crap car buying experience ever, just not remotely interested. I don’t expect anything particularly out of the ordinary but they could have just made the whole experience a bit more special considering the money being spent. Morons. Never again. Ripped them to shreds on the CS review request that I received a few days later.

    The drive back was uneventful in that it was get in, drive home but what a ride it was. The comfort is way beyond the 3er and it really is just something you could spend hours in and the 3 was not exactly uncomfortable. The most startling thing apart from the ride is how quiet it is, it’s just so relaxing. In the 3 I would have to crank up the stereo to cancel out the noise but in this thing I hardly need to turn it up all before it cancels out the air rushing over the car. It really is an odd feeling, listening to music at an easy level and not being able to hear anything outside. I love it. Managed 35mpg which was actually the same as my old E91 but it won’t be difficult to lower that just mooching around I’ll wager.

    Performance and handling wise it clearly isn’t a patch on the 335d but it’s no slouch though. It handles a damn sight better than I thought it would and I can easily hoof it down country lanes if I feel like it. It’s still no sports car though and as it’s absolutely bloody massive I’m still a bit wary! Seating position is great, seats are very comfortable and infinitely adjustable. Key controls are nicely to hand, everything is covered in leather and has a solid feel to it, no horrible plastics in sight. It all works very well. Well almost, the tech we’ll come to later.

    Things I like:

    The ride and comfort, just sublime. The space in the back for the hound and associated canine admin. The seats. The deployable side steps - more useful than I thought. The fridge. The sound system, better than the HK but only marginally. Its go anywhere capability, I’ve already used it off-road around our local area in deep mud that I wouldn’t have dared go near in the 3. I can also go through our local ford now! I like that the wife likes it, she’s really sold on it much to my surprise. There is more tech in the car than the 3 but it ain’t the easiest to navigate around. It’s easy to change the direction of the lights and convert to kmh, something that I couldn’t really do before. I also have the digital display so I can have a moving map in the cluster which is surprisingly useful. Adaptive Cruise is easier to use, one press and job done. Blind spot monitor also v useful. Remote app is quite good.

    Things I’m not so bothered about:

    The HUD. It’s a bit crap really with just speed, direction and current limit. Can’t use it to navigate around phone numbers or music. Lane departure warning with the shaky steering wheel.

    Things that are annoying me:

    The tech. Aaaaargh! It’s not a patch on the iDrive system and whilst it’s not quite driving me nuts, it’s not far off. There is actually probably more functionality but it’s just so difficult to use and I hate using the touchscreen on the move, it’s downright dangerous. On the drive down I couldn’t get the RTTI to work, it just wouldn’t connect to anything. We stopped at Tebay and I realised the sales berk had put the SIM in the wrong way round but I still couldn’t get it to work so I gave up. A few days later I bought a new SIM as I thought it might be faulty and as I bought it the bloke told me not to forget to activate it which just set off alarm bells. Back to the original SIM, put ten quid on it and hey presto, it starting working. So not only did the bloke put it in the wrong way round there wasn’t actually any data on it! I suspect the Google thing he found was just the cache. As for the remote InControl activation bit, I did it myself in the end as the emails dried up.

    The graphics are really old school and whilst I can get the google maps type display it’s overhead only, no perspective. I can get perspective/3D on the non-google map display but the daytime display colours are Fisher Price so I have it on night mode all the time, easier on the eye. I’m also limited in how I can split the screen, it won’t let you choose anything in the same way that iDrive does but it doesn’t really bother me that much really. Ultimately, I’m just not that interactive with the system as I was with iDrive which may not be a bad thing really. Ultimately the system just doesn’t flow in the way iDrive did and I really miss it. I’m sure I’ll get used to it but it’s a royal pain in the arse so far.

    The High Beam Assist isn’t very good or at least not as good as BMW’s and I find myself turning it off. I’ve also been flashed more times in a few weeks than I have in as many years, not much I can do about that really.

    Anyway, that’s quite a lot of waffle. The first real test will come in a few week’s time when we take it to Croatia for New Year. We’ll be going Black Forest, Salzburg, Zagreb, Ogulin and back through the Black Forest again. Should be good.

    So was it the right choice? Absolutely. I know it’s a divisive car with a questionable image but the utility of it and the sheer comfort makes it a winner for me. It still has pace and power when needed but my driving style has definitely changed as a result and I no longer want to thrash it everywhere, again no bad thing. I love getting in it, the solid thump of the door shutting, turning up the music to the right level and just floating off. Now, if only I could get the iDrive system into it..
     
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    Interesting read. I share your views on the use of touch screen infotainment systems on the move. Downright distracting. Barely ever use the touchscreen on the G30, prefer to stick with the iDrive controller.
     
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    I wish you many happy and safe miles in it.
    Wait until you need to take it off road you'll forgive it's steam powered tech' then!

    Okay the Nav's naff but it's got 30 cm of clearance with 7 more in reserve.
    Half a metre of articulation between opposing wheels, an e diff' that reacts in 300th's of a second and terrain response. 'Awesome'

    Kindest Regards
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    It ll be better than the BMW in some ways and worse in others , so long as you re happy with it that s all that matters.
     
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    Interesting reading...

    The reviews I've read of various marques' infotainment systems often rate the iDrive highly and possibly the best on the market due to its intuitiveness and ease of use. The RR is obviously a more capable machine off road and from a comfort point of view I bet it soaks up the motorway miles, from what you've said it sounds like the tech needs to catch up a little though.
     
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    I don't really have many pictures just yet but here's a couple.

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    Congrats on the new RR Sport @The CO. :beers:

    No car is perfect, and it sounds like RR need to catch up with the technology. But the main thing is that the driving experience is so enjoyable. That in itself makes the change worthwhile. The comfort and ride quality will more than make up for the slight loss in performance terms compared to your F31, and you now have the ability to drive anywhere - on or off-road. :)

    I look forward to the photos, when you get chance. (y)
     
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    Good report - I like the look of them and yours is a great colour combo.

    I don't think your experience of Land Rover dealers is uncommon as a friend locally with the same car as yours has had issues with the Knutsford dealership. I have been a passenger in his and it is as you state a very refined ride.

    I was interested in a Jag XF estate in the past as the ride/handling is far better for UK roads than the German counterparts but the JLR infotainment system and reliability with it have always put me off.

    Please keep us updated.
     
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    Very interesting @CO - but nothing in your report surprised me at all.

    I had a few LandRovers - not RRs but top of the range Freelanders and received exactly the same Customer 'treatment'.

    How much one spends in a LR dealership is irrelevant - they seem to regard all customers with the same disdain.

    One of my neighbours has a new RR every couple of years - purely because of it's off-road and muddy lane ability.

    The thing really is old-school.- but it's got seats like arm-chairs and it soaks up rough roads like nothing else.

    I look forward to hearing of your experiences on the next Croatia trip.

    You certainly shouldn't have any problems with bad weather /snow etc.
     
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    That does look smart.:)
     
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    Congrats on the new car and glad you are mainly enjoying it even if the dealer experience is a little lacking!
     
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    Very nice, great colour combination. Enjoy!

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    Mine is 13.5 years old but I still love it.

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    Like any brand, you need to find a good dealer.

    I’ve been using mine for over 18 years and they serviced the RR last week and dropped it back yesterday and I haven’t seen a bill or discussed money yet with them.

    Enjoy the car. I’d love a new one and may look to get a newer supercharged one in a year or two.

    Cheers


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    The car looks great , although like many posts on here now it is not a BMW !
     
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    Just catching up on this, a good Sunday evening read. I love this car so much, but can’t help thinking it would be too big around my neck of the woods, the GT is big enough but the RR looks bigger still.
    My mate had an 07 reg RR vogue from new and he has just replaced it with £135k of RR, not sure what model but must be near the top. It is absolutely massive, but I still love it, and so does he.
     
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    Your 5 GT top trumps the Range Rover Sport on length and wheel base and has the same turning circle as the RRS, the range rover is a bit wider and taller than the 5GT, it would be interesting to see the 5 GT parked up next to a Range Rover Sport for a real life comparison
     
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    Like the dog crate - is that by TransK9. Keep thinking of getting one for my car but then just know I will swap car and it wont fit!!
     
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    It is indeed, pricey but quality piece of kit. Big bugger though, could probably fit two dags in it if you needed to!
     
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    Thought it would be worth an update after a 2500 mile round trip to Croatia over New Year. On the way there we stopped off in Unterreichenbach just inside the Black Forest in the north. One night in Salzburg, two nights in Zagreb over New Year, two nights at the in-laws and then back to Unterreichenbach for the last two nights before home. It was a bit of thrash to be honest but Mrs CO didn’t have that much leave hence the short time in each place.

    The journey itself was trouble-free and it was the first time we took the car on Eurotunnel and although we’d booked it on the normal carriage we ended up being filtered into the over height lane so no dramas there. As ever, hitting the French motorways is a sharp reminder of how crap our roads truly are, just embarrassing. Journey through France was uneventful and made easier by the Sanef toll tag so no waiting around at the toll booths. Lovely. Onto Salzburg and much the same as the previous leg, uneventful although it started to get colder. Took the car up to 130mph whilst in Germany just for the hell of it and managed to get it down to 8mpg! Didn’t do that for long. Next day, all bets were off and the snow started.

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    The car is shod with all season tyres so I was bit dubious but apart from a slight four wheel drift carrying too much speed into a rest area they were absolutely fine. There’s nothing quite like sliding a 2.2 ton car to wake you up that’s for sure. Once we arrived in Salzburg Mrs CO notice a couple of missed calls from the UK. Turned out that the tracker in the car lost its signal and raised an alarm with LR who rang us to make sure everything was ok. It was and we were quite reassured that it was that efficient. Onto Croatia and again, pretty uneventful. Back through Austria overnight and boy did it snow, pretty much 40mph for hours on end. Car was absolutely on the money, no dramas whatsoever. Just hunkered down and got on with it. In Calais for Eurotunnel and had the inevitable squeaky bum moment when we were in the right lane for the train and we had to pass under the 1.85m height barriers. We made it obviously but boy did it feel close.

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    And what of the car itself? What a way to travel, it really is so comfortable. The ride is sublime, it’s quiet, practical and a really nice place to sit. The nature of the car lends itself to a much more relaxed style of driving which my wife is much more appreciative of as I could be a bit of a loon in the 3. She loves driving it and we had a debate about whether it was better to drive or be a passenger, I think passenger and she thinks driving which is just astonishing coming from her. She’s normally just not bothered. I can see why people do get sucked into the LR brand, when the car works it really is in a league of its own. You can still chuck it about in Dynamic mode but in all honesty it feels a bit daft. I do miss the welly of the 3 but not as much as I thought I would which is surprising, time will tell on that side of things.

    Inevitably there are some niggles. The Main Beam Assist (AHBA on RR) isn’t very good or at least as not as sensitive as BMW’s. I’ve also taken a retrograde step with Xenons instead of the Adaptive LEDs I used to have. Whilst the LED throw wasn’t that great the brightness was and it almost feels like going back to halogens with Xenons. I’ll also always get flashed if I’m accelerating and there is oncoming traffic, the nose rising just blinds every poor bugger. Fuel economy isn’t great, I averaged 31.8 mpg over the trip compared to 45+ with the 3. I’m not surprised though and I can live with it but when you’re used to higher figures it’s still a reminder of how efficient BMW engines are. The tech is still bloody frustrating, it has good and bad bits. On the upside it does stuff that iDrive didn’t. For example, it’ll automatically tell you where the nearest fuel stop is when you’re running low, it will tell you what the speed limits are when you cross borders and you can send messages to people with your ETA. The nav works well with multiple notifications in the main display and the instrument panel but the HUD is next to useless. Whereas the BMW HUD would show a nice graphic of the turn the RRS system just gives a directional arrow, garbage frankly. I hope their newer system is better. Actually using the system on the go is horrible and I avoid it as much as I can and as for searching for albums to play, forget it. They use a folder system and scrolling up and down a touchscreen is just a big fat no. I usually just pick a long playlist off the phone and do it that way.

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    The car has also developed a couple of gremlins that need to be sorted. The tailgate has started squeaking, the blind spot monitor on the passenger side needs recalibrating and there is an intermittent humming/vibration from the engine that cropped up when it was really cold, very hard to pin down. On the upside I got a free refill of AdBlue at the local dealer. Turned up just to buy some to top up and found out that it’s a LR policy to give free refills. Happy days.

    Despite the grumbles, I’m happy with it. I like the way it rides, the serene way it glides around (mostly), the capacity, the security and I also rather like the look of the thing. I find myself looking over my shoulder when parked up and searching for an excuse to take it out one more time. And that can be no bad thing, right?
     
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