F25 BMW X30d M Sport review (3500-26k miles)

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    Thanks for taking the time to write up.

    As you may remember, I bought an F25 X3 20d Xdrive SE as the family car a couple of years ago. I've not driven it now for over a year but would've spent a good long time behind the wheel over the first year we had it. I've now parted legal company with it - having transferred it into my ex's name.

    In spite of not being the 30d you have, I agree with an awful lot of what you describe. I never really wanted the X3 - when they were released I was an E70 X5 40d owner and the X3 looked very cheap in comparison. But necessity drove me to buy the X3 when we got flooded in on the farm a few times and I have to confess, it was a very good purchase and a very easy car to live with. I bought mine with c. 44k on the clock IIRC and last time I cause to look in the car, it had done 70k. The only issues in the last two years and 26k miles was a leaking windscreen (which was down to an ill-fitted replacement, but not BMWs fault) and a faulty nearside rear LED cluster, which was replaced under Mondial Extended Warranty. It kind of mirrors the experience I had with both my X5s - they were the most reliable of all my BMWs owned. So much for German build quality - the X range are built in Spartenburg in the USA!!

    I found the 20d pretty sprightly, considering the heft of the SUV frame and drivetrain but pretty noisey and I'm sure the soundproofing isn't as good as the F10 in which the 20d is a bit more muted. Having got the same 30d engine as you in my F11, I know how prodigous the shove is and I'm marvelling at how good your fuel economy is. I get 38.3mpg out of my 530d and the 20d X3 gets just shy of 40mpg Overall. For the performance you have on tap vs. the weight penalty, I think 36mpg is pretty respectable.

    Looking at your interior vs. the one I had, clearly the LCI has taken the interior up a notch. Looks like a lot nicer place to be than mine was. Mine had a utilitarian feel to it, which worked on the farm, but still no way comparable to the relative luxury of the X5 I had a few years back and the 5er I drive now. That said, it's appealing to a different market.

    Wish you many more happy miles in it and do keep us updated with how it goes. If you can't be bothered doing the Audio yourself - AudioFile in Bishops Stortford gets a big thumbs up from me. expensive, but the results are mind-blowing.
     
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    Thanks Duncan, I have to admit loving your write ups and reviews. My aim was to produce something equally useful to other readers. Audiofile certainly know their upgrades from what I have read, would you say I could stop at a system 2 upgrade or is the minimum really a system 3 for £1599?
     
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    Audiofile wanted £2800 for the system I have, I fitted it for about £1300 albeit without the Audison Bit 10, but with a DSP amp that does the same thing. It is a lot of work though and that's why the labour charge is high.
    Does the stage three include the Audison Bit 10?
     
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    Thank you. I enjoy writing them up, so pleased to hear they are also enjoyable to read. Certainly interesting to read yours and nice also to see that you come to similar conclusions from your time with the car as I did with mine.

    I had the System2 Plus done on my X5. There were times where I wish I'd gone for the 3 Plus but I'm pretty sure if I were to do it again, then 2Plus would suffice. The punch from the factory subs is fine, but I guess they could be a bit tighter (and certainly more punchy) with the 3 but I don't tend to run my audio at high volumes nor really go for really bassy setups.

    The Plus is important as it brings the Audison BIT10 which de-eqalizes the headunit and allows the staging to be setup. I wasn't going to go for it until I sat in Gary's demo vehicle and heard the difference with and without. Was well worth the extra IMO and made it for me.

    I don't have a pot for the proverbial at the Moment, let alone for the AudioFile treatment and I have to confess that the HiFi Professional I have in the 530d is very good, but I would love to have Gary fettle one of my cars again in due course. At the moment though, the focus for me is elsewhere. But I had no regrets whatsoever about the money I spent on the X5. And whatever fabrication is done, Gary and his Team do it to an incredible high level of detail with the focus on everything looking completely OEM. The fact he has a huge waiting list and all sorts of exotica going through there is testament to the attention which goes into the installs.
     
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    The Mosconi DSP amps also de-equalise as Dunk mentions above. If you're starting with the basic system then you need this otherwise the treble will be top heavy and tinny.
    I have a Mosconi 6 channel DSP amp, you simply hook it up to a laptop and tailor to your preferred sound. I managed to download a pre-written sound file from M3cutters and fed that into the DSP amp, I just had to adjust the distance of the speakers from the driver as the file was meant for a s series.
    Don't forget that the Audiofile route does not include the rear speakers, this is why mine was quoted as £2800 fitted (10 speakers and 6 channel amp)
     
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    The system 2 PLUS includes the Audison bit 10 at a cost of £1599 inc vat

    http://www.audiofile-incar.co.uk/audio-upgrades/bmw-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-and-x-series
    Really tempted by it tbh .... You only live once and the X3 is staying with me for many years.
    The other factor being I spend a great deal of time in the vehicle when driving around London for work.

    @kleynie - I don't know how you found the time to do the self install, hats off to you for completing it though. I'm more likely to do some weekend overtime and let the professionals sort it out.
     
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    It took me many evenings and weekends on and off. I wanted to teach my son, so that was another reason for doing it. We'll be doing the same in his Audi A2 soon.
     
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    Gary never normally recommends doing the rear speakers - even his demo vehicle only had the fronts upgraded. Only other thing I would consider, would be getting the rear doors soundproofed. It made so much of a difference having the fronts done, that I would've had him do the rear doors sooner or later if I'd have kept the car. He'll do you a deal on the price of doing that if it's done with the System2 Plus.
     
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    My rear speakers were pants and the kids are usually in the car, and with such a big car the rear speakers are needed. Fair enough if no-one ever sits in the back, but that wasn't the point for me.
     
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    Dunc -you read my mind. I was thinking of asking about soundproofing the rear doors if i go down this route. Mulling it over, but a £2k upgrade doesn't sound (pun intended) too bad, if i can swing it under Mrs Pinewoods radar :p
    Will ring him and have a chat about upgrading in stages as budget becomes available or better to hit it in one go (system 2 plus)
     
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    The dynamat in the doors makes the biggest difference, especially the rear doors and boot. I would be doing that and the speakers (whilst the door panels are removed) first. Worry about the rest later.
     
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    Would it be worth pricing the Individual Audio set up?
    Probably on par price wise, though the system works very well and may be upgraded in stages ?
    Whilst I stumbled acrosss the set up by chance, the sound is immense and fully tuneable
     
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    The air con isn't cold anymore. Only noticed it properly today. Just about kept the interior cool with the blowers up.
    I don't understand why it needs regassing,as I tend to use it during the winter months as well?
    Will it be covered under my fully comprehensive warranty?
    She has done 29,700 miles in 5 months short of 4 years old and fbmwsh
     
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    Silly question, nevertheless, have you turned down the controls on the idrive
     
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    Does the electro magnetic clutch engage on the compressor? should be able to hear it click if you get someone else to switch on/off whilst you observe
     
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    I don't think the aircon regas is covered under a warranty. On my last car, it was covered by warranty and service pack and at 3 years I think it was they said they recommend regassing air con and I think they charged me £80.

    It seems that is outside of the service plan / warranty..

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    Even if the regas is not covered under the warranty surely identifying and fixing the leak should be, the refrigerant shouldn't leak out in less than 4 years
     
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    Hope things don't go wrong in 3's
    The rdc bong went off today and have no TPMS readings from the tyres. Reset them when car came to a stop,but no salami. Checked all 4 and thankfully no punctures. Glad i took out the extra years warranty back in Oct 17'
    Time to book her in for air con and this :-(
     
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    My TPMS went bong on Saturday, turned out I had a nail in the offside rear. The guys at Costco repaired it for me and checked the pressures in all four, they even used a torque wrench! And all for 10 quid, brilliant.
     
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    Went out to the car an hour later. Reset TPMS and went for a short drive. Now seeing all PSI readings and no alerts or bongs. Will still get her booked in for the air con,but maybe give it a week and see if the bong was a one off
     

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