Bye bye GT, hello Macan

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    I'm going to setup my Sat Nav to apply a detour of at least 5 miles around all Porsche dealerships.
    I can imagine having a test drive of a Macan would result in a serious case of Porkitus, and there's no known cure. :driving: :ROFLMAO:
     
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    I think the thing about the Macan is that it does a fantastic impression of being a sports car. If you haven't driven a 911 or any of the sports cars in their range, you could be forgiven for believing it is as much the Porsche as any other. The noise (with the petrol engine - sorry for bringing it up again, Ian) is every bit as sonorous as that in the 911, even if it misses the flat six uniqueness. Also, the driving position and the view across the instrumentation and the bonnet feels right - it's only missing the slight humps of the headlights from the 911.

    Out on the road, the handling is phenomenal. I don't have the air suspension but do have PASM and Porsche Torque Vectoring; the latter particularly making the car pretty defying of what you believe are normal physics. The mechanical road holding is immense in any event, but when you're already going faster than you would in any normal car and then nail the throttle mid-corner and the line tightens, it feels like you have a rudder pedal at your feet rather than a throttle, such is the way it yaws around its central axis.

    When you can do all of this in a body which, albeit compact, is big enough to cart a small family around in, you can see why it is the pick of the range for most people.

    I will begrudgingly concede that the mpg for the additional audible excitement is a pain - but maintain it's only a pain really due to the range rather than the cost. Lots of large petrol cars do around 25mpg, for 7k pa like I do, the difference between 25mpg and 21mpg is pennies over the year. But constant filling every 300miles in normal use is a pain.

    I am sure we will eventually out-grow ours and the Cayenne will be the only choice. But what I've learnt from being lucky enough to have driven every model in the line-up at various times over the years is that every model is blessed with the Porsche DNA which makes them feel special in a way that I can't find in a BMW or other marque. However, this does come at a price, I concede.
     
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    PDCC is a major key to the tightness of high speed cornering, (as in bugger all under steer) and quite simply I love it. PDCC Sport version in the case of the Panamera. It does seem to defy physics and continues to astound me.

    PASM hydraulically adjusts the dampers to reduce roll etc, giving better grip, so if in sport the oil in the damper is increased to make a harder ( sportier feel) ride. in comfort less oil, more "bouncy" ride. - probably like the adaptive suspension my 640d had, again it was ridiculous good round corners.
     
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    The Macan fascinates me but as time has gone on I've realised it wasn't quite the car for us even though I was besotted with the GTS and I came so damn close to buying one it was unreal. Part of the challenge I had was finding one with all the bits that I wanted but it was almost impossible and became quite frustrating but I think it was mostly about space and practicality. The odd thing about them is they're really not that big and it had no more physical space than my old F31 and so to change that for something that arguably couldn't offer much more in terms of space was a bit daft.

    I'll admit that during the peak of my frustrations with the RRS (which seems to be fixed now would you believe, it's only taken about 8 visits) I went back to Porsche and threw the dog crate in the back but it wouldn't fit, not by a long shot. We then pulled a new Cayenne out and with the revised rear rake even that didn't fit so it had to be the previous model where it did actually slot in quite nicely. Thing is, I was never that enamoured by the Cayenne, it was a Macan or nothing else. Sales bloke was funny though, he asked me how long I'd had the RRS and he raised his eyebrows when I said eight months. To be fair he was pretty diplomatic and actually quite complimentary about LR in general but sympathetic to my pain and frustration nonetheless.

    In truth, I could probably get away with a Macan but to be honest I'm very happy (for the time being at least) with the RRS, it really is a lovely place to sit on a long journey, so much nicer than my previous cars and the dog loves it too which means a happy wife. It's surprisingly chuckable given its heft but for driving dynamics the Porsche will always win out. I liken the experience of owning an RRS to stroking a horse's nose, it's a pleasurable experience but you're never quite sure if it's going to bite you.
     
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    This is the key to it. I’ve had many M Sport BMW’s, all with massive wheels and sh1t ride, now I have the best of both worlds, massive wheels, great ride and handling to die for. In sport plus the whole car squats down to its lowest setting and the acceleration off the line is awesome. Even after the 535d I owned which was quicker on paper, the Macan diesel is simply so much better it feels 2 seconds quicker to 60. I just don’t know how they do that from a fairly lowly 258bhp. Then hit a roundabout and nail the throttle, it just makes me laugh how good it is.

    Then for the wife, she leaves it in comfort with the suspension height on max and she just floats along doing 30mph like miss daisy. I honestly cannot think of a better car for two forty somethings with teenage kids who rarely come out with us now, having said that, my son often wants to just come for a fast drive so he can fiddle with the various settings and dream of the day he can get insured to drive it.
     
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    I still need to record the sound for you guys, with the sports exhaust it sounds nothing like a diesel, even my mate with the M140i was fooled by it. Now that I’ve removed the diesel badges the only time you can actually tell it’s diesel is when it’s cold or with the exhaust turned off.

    I can’t put into words how much I love this car.
     
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    I have more spec than most GTS’s on sale but it took three months of looking and chasing. In fact the only thing missing from the spec sheet was speed limit display, I have now added that with a software update and the car is now what I would truly call fully loaded. I still can’t believe my luck in finding a diesel car with £24k worth of extras for the price of a new 320d.
    Size wise, we don’t have a dog and the kids rarely sit in the back now, so it’s perfect. One of the reasons for selling the 535 GT was to downsize, the Macan is a full 10” shorter and just feels so compact like a hot hatch, but you can still seat five in relative comfort.
     
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    Aye, you hit the jackpot with the spec I've never seen another Macan like it!
     
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    Starting to feel like a Land Rover product now, left it at Porsche Guildford yesterday for a new gearbox :mad:.
    Getting a Q5 from Enterprise tomorrow, I’ve been car less for two days.
     
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    @kleynie Sorry to hear the new re needing a new gear box :( Have they said how long before you due to get the car back or are they waiting for the gearbox to arrive?

    Kev
     
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    The garage are awaiting approval from Porsche, should get that tomorrow hopefully, but I don’t think i’ll Have it back any time soon. It only went in for the warranty check as it’s one month away from three years old and only 13k on the clock.
     
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    That's a bit of a blow @kleynie . A new gearbox after only 13k miles. :(

    But rather fortunate that it showed up whilst still in the warranty period.
     
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    At VW with the twin clutch gearboxes we have to fill out an obligation to report for approval to repair/replace from VW. I’d imagine you’re in the same boat as to waiting for authorisation to repair or replace it as a whole unit.

    What’s wrong with it? Oil leak?

    Not great, but good if you don’t have to pay for it.

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    You're a Master of Timing, good job you didn't miss that inspection appointment.
     
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    Yes oil leak, was driving perfectly, no issues whatsoever
     
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    Not quite John. It was in for its inspection for the end of manufacturers warranty and the start of the extended warranty. The inspection was £250 and the warranty another £1780 for two years
     
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    I’ve had a Sharan in last month and we found an oil leak from the gearbox and there are not any parts available or repair instructions so the only thing to do is replace the whole gearbox.

    Unfortunately the customer got the gearbox oil change done at 45,000 miles as opposed to 40,000 miles do warranty have rejected it and the whole cost is down to him now.

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    Oi! I resemble that remark! You'll have some way to go before you beat the world's best off-roader, 80 days in 320 mine's been at the dealers. Just ridiculous.
     
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    Ouch! Is the DSG the same design as the PDK? What you say above is what Porsche have also indicated.
     
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    Wow, I consider myself lucky then.
     

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