Advice Please Cleaning the car

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    Our cars [X1 Black , Z3 Silver , Nissan QQ White-ish] have only ever been cleaned using Gold Shampoo and then dried off, with a pressure spray underneath and for the wheels.
    They are now looking dull, and particularly my wife's QQ the white is very dirty and dull.
    Advice please as to my best method of dealing with these .
     
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    To get the maximum effect with the minimum of effort - and without launching yourself into a world of obsessive car cleaning/detailing I would suggest:

    Autoglym Super Resin Polish followed by -

    Autoglym Extra Gloss Protection - only on the Silver and white cars, and

    Autoglym Ultra Deep Shine on the black car.

    Wash with Autoglym Shampoo & Conditioner.

    I'm not an AutoGlym dealer or shareholder :D - just a happy customer.

    I've found that sticking to the one brand for the basics ensures the products are designed to best complement each other.

    I also have loads of other products that do give an improvement in appearance but it's very easy for one to start spending cash for diminishing returns.

    It all depends how much time, effort, and money you want to spend.
     
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    Thanks for that , couple more questions I am afraid

    I really feel I need to get the QQ back to original colour , will polish achieve this?

    As I looking doing 3 cars would a DA polisher me worth buying , if so which one, and would this help in getting them really clean first.
     
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    A word of warning. Once you look at detailing, then the cleaning OCD will kick in o_O
     
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    Ask 20 different people and you ll get 20 different answers to your question . Everybody has their own favourite brands and techniques . As Slim Boy Fat suggests , look at the Polished Bliss Website or may I suggest Detailing World as well. The process is really quite simple , you get the car back to basics , all previous coatings of polish , wax , sealant or whatever else is on it Off completely . To do this you have to De Contaminate , eg A good wash , Clay Bar or Mitt , a Paintwork Cleaner , then once you get back to simply paint , a Polish for Shine , then a Wax or Sealant to Protect and seal it in of your choice . A lot of work , but it does pay dividends as maintenance washes and Wax Top Ups are made so much easier after this . As for a Machine Polisher , wait and see how you get on first , if the cars paint needs correction , as it has lots of swirl marks , ok , get one , if not , you re fine . Machine Polishing is another world of it s own but a DA is better for a beginner . Good luck with it , I don t envy you with three cars to do though and don't forget to post pics of your cars once finished .:)
     
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    I second what Murray has said. When i first started machine polishing using a DA i found the junkman videos on youtube very helpful in explaining the whole process.
     
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    Best DA is a DAS6 Pro. (they say)
    For what your doing as a beginner, just get a £30 polisher from Halfords, That's all I have and have done a lot of cars as a novice. A real da is £100+ ish. No real point for us normal people. IMHO

    For me (pre ceramic coatings), I just used Meguirs Deep Crystal paint clean. Unless you have some tougher marks to get out.

    For white - on my Ex's White QQ I used acrylic rather than polish/waxes. Hard to get a reflection from white, acrylic does it better.
    Back then used WerKstat Acrylic, but Its got a new name that escapes me . P.... ?

    Used it on my white 640d too, http://www.bmwland.org.uk/index.php?threads/review-of-640d-coupe-m-sport.174/ , you can see the reflections I got.


    Like others say, we all have a different view. that's mine.


    Silver ( my 535d and 330d) before I developed my slightly shiny OCD - Meguirs Crystal Paint system.
    Black ( (My IS200 ) Nightmare, will never own a black car again, best colour when clean, look back as you walk away after drying it, its dirty again.
    Poorboys Black hole was decent.

    detailing world site has a million threads, but beware, once you go there, you will start spending !!
    And maybe end up with a £960 ceramic coating !


    Finally - for the plastic on the QQ get Gtechniq C4 - its awesome. Seems expensive but lasts ages on the car.
     
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    I'd get the iron oxide off them and clay them. After that it's down to whatever you fancy. The permutations are endless. Have a read and have fun.
     
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    Plan a day ( 8 hours) per car by the way. !

    Piant - Ironx, tardis*, clay, paint cleaner with DA, polish with DA, polish again with DA, wax, wax again.. Grey trim - C4.
    Wheels - ironx, clay, seal.

    Stand back and admire. Then in my case, look up at the dark clouds rapidly approaching.

    * if you have a tarmac drive maybe don't use tardis, just clay bar.


    Ironx the wheels is a must, on your first go you will be stood in amazement. I still have pic somewhere of my first time.
     
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    Thanks for help, I am looking at IronX -- Tar remover -- Clay Bar -- Paint Cleaner - -Polish then Wax

    Found the Junkman videos very interesting.

    Can I just go to a couple of items.

    Clay --- is it best to use a bar or a mitt?

    DA --- I am looking at the Maguire's unit that fits onto a normal drill ,any good?

    Will probable stay with Megs as is what I have always used.

    I can get on with the tyres/wheels before the weather improves
     
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    I started off with bars of various grades then tried a mitt - which I'll be using from now on. It's reusable which the bars aren't, and if you drop a bar it has to go in the bin.
     
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    Hmm, not sure f I want to see that...:oops::whistle:
     
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    Behave, now! :D
     
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    "That" first time is a home video :p;)

    Actually the ironx wheel first pic looked like someone had been murdered.
     
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    I prefer the bar, I found with the mitt I bought, if you go at it a bit to hard it actually put black marks on the car, but that was prob really my error. They are pretty easy going otherwise.
    Me and slim prob had the same mitt at some point as per DW threads a few years back when clay mitts coming on the scene.
     
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    This post has lots of useful information. It may be worth one of the moderators putting a copy in the "Deatiling & Car Care" forum for future reference.
     
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    The one I used was similar to this one http://www.chemicalguys.com/Surface_Cleansing_Mitt_Med_Grade_Clay_System_Kit_p/cly_310.htm
    could only get 3 fingers in . @Merc? No. BM! don't !

    My view is you don't need to buy specific clay lube, just use clean wash/shampoo water - don't let glove go dry.
     

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