2004 X5 door lock problem - Help!!

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    I was out in the car earlier no problem. I have just now gone out to get in the car - it wasn't locked, and the drivers door wont open!! The other doors are all fine, I have tried locking and unlocking several times but the drivers door still wont open. The handle doesn't seem to sit back to the door as it used to, it is a mm or so proud of the lock surround. I tried using the key in the lock instead of the remote, which does lock and unlock, but no luck with the door. I have heard that on some BMW's there can be a problem with the handle, as it is plastic, which presumably breaks in some way, can anyone suggest how I can fix this please?

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    Thank you Alan, what actually goes wrong - do you know? I looked at the part you mentioned, which is aluminium, you cant tell from Realoem what material that is, although it appeared rather more expensive than the part you saw!! If they are all ali, I presume something breaks, so the handle doesn't lift the lock mechanism enough. I have asked Ed at Cotswold BMW for a quote. I am loathe to take the door apart to see if it might be repairable, in case it is terminally bu**ered and have to take it all apart again to fit a new part.

    It looks rather over complicated for what it does, compared to most locks I have had to take apart in the past, and no doubt like the others I have encountered, it will be a major PITA getting at it and fixing it..........:-(
     
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    If you look at the first photo on the ebay link that Alan posted, the bit that tends to break is the small piece that goes over the bar at the bottom of the holder. It is at the opposite end to the spring. A fix is to use a cable tie to replace the broken part. Did both of mine and they worked for years after the fix. For £15 though it is probably worth just buying a ner carrier:)
     
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    Thank you Cooky too! What is the BMW carrier made of? I have done some research - mainly to get it fixed ASAP, but also not get robbed, some are aluminium, and some aftermarket ones are iron. I did order the £15 one, but it appears to be coming from China on a slow boat, as the expected delivery date is over a week away, and I would like to fix it before that, but I am none to keen on BMW's quote of £90!! So I may go down the cable tie route. You would hope that BMW would have beefed it up, as it is very clear that it really is a fairly big problem judging by the number of different suppliers I found.
     
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    When mine went i was opening the window by holding the fob button so i could open the door.
    It was a metal one i got not ally and made by Malye about £23.
    When you see it you will see why the snap very poor design if you ask me.
     
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    The part I said was coming from China arrived today - along with a second part I ordered from Motormec, made by Meyle. I tried getting the door apart yesterday, but had to admit defeat, I just couldn't get the door card to lift up and away from the door, so its booked in at my local specialist for Wednesday, as I was afraid of breaking something (probably expensive!) if I tugged at it more. I was also trying to do it without disconnecting the battery - what a MAJOR PITA getting at that!! I could not believe that it was necessary to remove the spare wheel, and take out the air pump as well. I am seriously beginning to wonder whether it was such a good move getting an X5 now, I never had issues like I have had with this so far in my previous 5 series cars.
     
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    One question to you knowledgeable guys - does the plastic handle itself ever break, I don't think it has, it doesn't appear broken, but if it is any indication, the handle doesn't sit quite flush with the lock housing now. I just want to make sure I have all the parts to hand when it comes apart.
     
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    If the plastic handle broke you would know instantly.
     
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    Thanks for that Alan! The car was in today at my indy, who has now fixed it. He had the choice of a Meyle carrier, or the £15 one, he chose the Meyle one. It is with great relief that I can now get in the car as BMW intended, it was a right PITA opening it whilst it was broken, because everywhere I parked seemed to be in a spot where having got the door open, the pesky door check strap would close it!!
    Having now seen the original broken carrier, I can see why they break, the two ends of the casting holding the pivot rod are pitifully small, bizarrely it looks like the bearings could have been made more than twice the width, which would have made the mechanism far stronger.
    I am quite shocked at the price BMW charge for the part £90 - yet Mayle charge £25 for what looked nearly identical, and a well made piece of kit too. The tech who fitted the part told me that he has changed several, and is a well known problem with the earlier X5's.
    Thanks to all of you who responded to my post - much appreciated!
     
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    @Richyroos All's well that ends well, then. (y)

    Shame BMW appear to be 'building down' to a price with some models? :oops:
     
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    It was the Meyle carrier i fitted to mine.
    I buy mainly Meyle parts when i need something don't know why but have done for years now.
     
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    I too have used Meyle parts for some time, never had any problems with them at all, they seem to be rather like a German equivalent of Quinton Hazel, although saying that, I am not 100% sure QH still exist, as I haven't seen any of their products for a while now.
     

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